11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
Mark

3:8
The wind blows where it pleases, and you hear its sound, but you don't know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.
John

Thinking about how andrew told me last night i hated evanglical thought, and reading these passages.
i think that those who find god will find him or her in their own time, and often he is unknowable.
pushing people towards the divine, yelling at them, telling them they are evil are not only ineffective, but not godly.
thomas and i are in the middle of a fight.