Notes from the Dale Martin Symposium last wek

The questions about what love is should change:

what is ethical love
is ethical love always situational
does xian identity construct itself around these ideas of ethical love
can harm be loving
when is harm love (ie how and when is it ethical for me to hurt someone, when does the hurting help)

Paul leaves out the first commandment and says only the second is vital.

the ethical requirement of the centrality of self

Christanity--who is xian and how it is defined, could be seen as a kind of ramily reseemblence, or poitns of family resemblece (cf wittgenstein)--in this way, the idea becomes that good scholars dont draw liens

the tension b/w religious work and theological work:
in theological work, the body of christ is a real, imperial thing in the world, encompassing not only everything in the world, but everyone who has ever been a xian

We all change, and where you end up changing cannot be seen from the beginning

Self deined as a William James style american Prgamistist
Religion becomes a question of what do people actually do. (which leads to a devolped common sense/habitus, and notes what makes this xian)

Hauwerwas:
He has railed against the sticky liberal ethics of love, seeking to replace it with McIntyre's ethics of virture, construct this ethic of love, but you cannot prescrbe virture either.

sometimes the loving thing to do is to move beyond justice.

train audience in hearing agape eros philos, but those terms are not that neat.

ie in the passage about Peter Do You Love Me, the switch b/w agape and philos--little difference there.

how do we make these dsciourses female, transgender, queer

Maureen Tilley

The erotics of male friendship in augustine

the idea of erotic and platonic love are less of two solitidues, texts that do not cross the stream, and more of a specturum.

calling a body ensouled meant it was alive

the homosocial nature of beranrd of clarvieuxs discussion of song of songs--accounts etc